Sun, 30 Sep 2007
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Rate Badge History & Identification
If anyone has any questions, comments or
information on the badges on this site, please
let me know.
Posted 08:28
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28 comments
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Well Done Allen A Top Job
All credit to you Allen, the site is
comprehensive and and its content of imense
historical value.
Fond regards,
Steve (Windy) Hills.
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Great Job
Well done Al, you have done a great job of
categorizing the history and variety of rate
badges in the RAN.
Ando
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Thanks
Thanks all. If you need any info, pictures or a
general chat please feel free to post it here or
email me.
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Good on you mate.
It was great to finally see what the Rate Badges
of yester year looked like. Heard about them but
pictures are always better than words, mostly.
Well done and thank you.
Peter Mills.
PS, I thought ID cards were to be surrendered on
discharge?
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ID Cards
Hi mate. Thanks for the feed back. I am always
looking to improve the site and am happy to help
with info on a particular category or rate
badge. If you see any mistakes or have other
info please let me know. As for the ID card,
because I did rocky time I was able to hold on to
mine. It has since expired so is invalid now and
I slowly cut down on my rocky time due to my
current employment so I have never been asked to
surrender it. Good point though. I know a few
blokes who "lost" theirs just prior to discharge.
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Well Done Allen
I remember your recent email advising of the new
site, I am glad you set it up Allen. i will be
spending a lot of time here.
Regards Cliff
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Cooks Rate
Well done Allen i just got a copy of the cooks
rate of this site i needed a copy of one so i
could get Badges made (Not your type )The lapel
type i am getting made for our up coming cooks re
union in july.This site will be invaluable in time
to come to those doing research so well done mate
Regards quinny .
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Thanks guys, if I can be of any assistance with
scans of actual badges etc please don't hesitate
to drop me a line and I'll email you the scan in
what ever size you need. Always happy to help.
The photo's of my collection are updated
regularly and will be done again in the next few
weeks. Have some new ones for the Seaman &
Electrical branches that I have purchased.
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HEAD SCRATCHER
G'day Allen.
Our local RSL has been presented with a uniform
that has chief's badges PLUS a right arm rate
for Marine Technician Hull. This is most
puzzling to a 50-60s type like me. Help? Cheers.
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RE: Head Scratcher
Hi mate, thanks for visiting my site and for t
he question.
M
arine Technical Hull came from the old S
hipwright branch as you may have known it. In 1
974 under SAILSTRUC the old Marine Engineering a
nd Shipwright branches were changed to Marine T
echnical Propulsion (MTP) and Marine Technical H
ull (MTH).
T
he MT branch also temporarily absorbed the old E
M(P) branch as well and they were called Marine T
echnical Power Electrics (MTL). This branch w
as disbanded in the late 1970's and became E
TP. Interestingly under the new system ETP's a
re now once again part of the Marine Technician b
ranch.
I
n 1992 the branch underwent another change and M
TP, MTH & ETP combined into Marine Technician.
T
he electrical branches also underwent their own c
hanges. EM(P) became MTL then ETP. EM(C) b
ecame ETC, EM(WE) became ETS & EM(WR) became E
TW. Now ETC, ETS & ETW are combined into the E
lectronic Technician branch.
M
echanicians were phased out in the late 1
970's. Artificers and Artisans also d
isappeared over time.
H
ope this helps mate.
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RE: Head Scratcher
Hi mate, thanks for visiting my site and for t
he question.
M
arine Technical Hull came from the old S
hipwright branch as you may have known it. In 1
974 under SAILSTRUC the old Marine Engineering a
nd Shipwright branches were changed to Marine T
echnical Propulsion (MTP) and Marine Technical H
ull (MTH).
T
he MT branch also temporarily absorbed the old E
M(P) branch as well and they were called Marine T
echnical Power Electrics (MTL). This branch w
as disbanded in the late 1970's and became E
TP. Interestingly under the new system ETP's a
re now once again part of the Marine Technician b
ranch.
I
n 1992 the branch underwent another change and M
TP, MTH & ETP combined into Marine Technician.
T
he electrical branches also underwent their own c
hanges. EM(P) became MTL then ETP. EM(C) b
ecame ETC, EM(WE) became ETS & EM(WR) became E
TW. Now ETC, ETS & ETW are combined into the E
lectronic Technician branch.
M
echanicians were phased out in the late 1
970's. Artificers and Artisans also d
isappeared over time.
H
ope this helps mate.
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contact details
Mate, what is your email address? I have some
bits and pieces for your collection.
Phil
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conact details
Hi. I can be contacted via email:
quagmire01@netspace.net.au.
AL
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contact details part 2
Mate, like yourself I am also on the DRN as I
also work at the HMAS Cerberus WTSS.
allen.inderwisch@defence.gov.au
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Photo Updates
Hi all, just to let you know, the photo's of my
collection will be updated again over the next
few weeks as my collection has expanded greatly
since the last lot were taken.
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Request Permission
Hi Allen,
I am currently a webmaster for a Ex JR Division.
I was wondering if I was able to place your link
on our website.
Pete Mills
Ex Rhoades 49th Division.
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Permission
Hi mate, go for it and thank you for having the
courtesy to ask. If you want to send me the link
to your site I am also happy to put it up on mine.
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bloodly good didnt know there where so many
rates have to come down one time and have a look
around,i was a abrp 1970-1976
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Hi Trevor, thanks for the feedback. I have
built up the collection at the museum over time
and it is now pretty good. My own collection is
up to over 1100, the museum is up to about 200,
due mainly to space. Please pop in to the
museum at some time and have a look around.
It's worth the trip if you can get there.
For eveyone else, I will be taking more photo's
of my collection in the next few weeks so watch
this space.
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Love ya work!
I joined the RAN in 1986 as a Writer. Left
after 7 years service to undertake a career as a
nurse. Left mainly because too many navy nurses
and not enough writers so couldn't transfer.
But looking at your site has brought back many
many memories. Again great job and although not
a lot to do with ther services anymore, you've
kept the history going. Roger.
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Thanks mate
Roger, thanks for your feedback mate. I update
the photo's of my collection at regular
intervals so please check back. Am happy to
help with any info that I can.
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History
Just found your web. Great stuff, bit as ex
greenie from 1957-1969, your date of 1974
regarding Electical Branch changed to Weapons
Electrical Engineering Branch is 10 years out. It
was 1964 not 1974.
Yours Jim Roles
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Thanks mate. You are right, under RATSTRUC in
1964 there was a change to the WEE Branch.
There was also another change in 1974 under
SAILSTRUC too. The WEE branch is one that
unfortunately there is not much documented
history on which makes things very difficult.
there is lots of anecdotal evidence but not much
in writing. Feed back like yours is always
appreciated and welcome. I will make some
ammendments when I get the chance.
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History
This is a followup to my previous email regarding
WEE branch. If you go to www.pussersgreenies.org/
then to "Branch History" it will tell you all
about the illustrious "Green Empire"
Yours Jim Roles
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Cheers mate. I have been on the site before and
it is good. Once again though they don't have
written sources for some of their info which
does make it a bit difficult to confirm the
dates. Most of their stuff is spot on and is
taken from RATSTRUC and SAILSTRUC douments etc.
An example of the problems of "memories" is the
fire fighting branch. I spoke to 3 people
seperately, all of whom are ex pusses fire
fighters from the same vintage and all 3 had
different memories of the course and when the
branch was made redudndant. I later found some
written sources and it turns out all 3 blokes
were wrong! It can be frustrating!
The greenies website is an excellent one though
and is worth a look. They have done a great job.
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Hi all, I have updated the pictures of my
collection as of 10/07/2009. A bog job but I
managed to get it done!
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Contacts
Hi Allen, I am an ex Victualler,if you could help
me it would be much appreciated. I am setting up
a large display frame and have so far collected
almost all the rates, hooks, Australia flashes
etc that I had when I served. Unforetunately,
some have eluded me. If you could point me in the
right direction that would be great.
Cheers,
John.
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RE: Contacts
Hi mate, drop me an email,
quagmire01@netspace.net.au, or post here again
and let me know what you need & I'll point you in
the right direction.
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